Perl Mongers: Frequently Asked Questions


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General Questions

What is Perl Mongers?

Perl Mongers is a loose association of international Perl User Groups. Individual groups vary a great deal in the details of what they actually do, but in most cases they are groups of Perl users in a particular location who get together periodically to discuss Perl and related topics.

Perl Mongers is also the name of the organisation that oversees and co-ordinates the local groups. It also provides internet services to these groups. Perl Mongers was originally set up as a not-for-profit organisation in the state of New York, but in July 2001 it joined with Yet Another Society.

Is there a Perl Mongers group in my area?

The list of currently established groups is here

How do I start a Perl Mongers group?

Simply find some Perl hackers in your area and ask them if they'd be interested in starting a group.

Experience shows that having a mailing list and a web site help to drum up interest in your new group. Almost certainly you'll already have access to servers to set them up on, but if you need help with that, we will gladly supply both web space and a mailing list.

The only other thing to do is to let us know about your new group so that we can add you to the list of established groups.

Can you provide people to speak at our meetings?

Perl Mongers can't actually provide speakers for you. Who do, however, maintain a list of well-known people from the Perl community who have indicated that they are happy to speak to Perl Monger groups when they are passing through the area.

Internet Services

What Internet services can Perl Mongers provide?

If your group does not have a local server that you can use to host a mailing list and a web site then we can host it for you on our server. If you want to host your mailing list and web site locally then we can provide a pm.org domain that points to your server.

See http://groups.pm.org/faq.html for details.

Why does it sometimes take awhile to get Perl Mongers services set up for my group?

Perl Mongers is an all volunteer organization, and almost all of our system administrators have very demanding commitments outside of Perl Mongers. We do things as quickly as is reasonable considering all of our other commitments. Additionally, there's nothing stopping you from operating your group while you are waiting for your Perl Mongers services.

How do I set up my group's web site on the Perl Monger server?

See http://groups.pm.org/faq.html.

How can I administer my mailing list

All lists are run using mailman. Users can access their mailman configuration at http://www.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/>list name<. List admins can access the list administration page at http://www.pm.org/mailman/admin/>list name<.

You use `mailman` on a Perl web site? Are you a secret Python programmer?

mailman is better than majordomo. Deal with it.

The Perl Mongers logo

Can I make my own camel logo?

The camel used in association with the Perl language is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates. Thus, you would have to ask them, although we can help you go through that process if you need to. Be warned that this can be a lengthy process and that only the most professionally designed logos are likely to pass muster with O'Reilly. You should seriously consider using the existing Perl Mongers logo which was chosen after almost a year of effort and many trips back to the ad agency.

Can I use the Perl Mongers logo?

Perl Mongers groups can use the logo that appears on this page on their own web page as long as they include the following text somewhere (able to be clearly seen) on the page:

"The use of the camel image in association with the Perl language is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Used with permission."

Use of the Perl Mongers logo in other media is evaluated on a case by case basis since Perl Mongers is legally liable for its misuse. Our license with O'Reilly & Associates requires us to report misuse of the Camel logo with the Perl Mongers name. Help us not get in trouble.

Can I change the Perl Mongers logo's color, size, and so on?

You can only use the image as you find it. Additionally, you cannot incorporate it into a larger logo or make it look like it is part of a larger graphic. If you have other needs, we might be able to work something out. We will, however, be less willing to work out special situations if we have to ask you to remove an improperly used logo before you ask us. We are legally liable for misuse of the logo.

Who created the logo?

Smith & Jones Advertising and Marketing developed the corporate image and handles all of Perl Mongers logo placement needs. The camel image is used with the permission of O'Reilly & Associates.